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I was under the impression that 40% of the money spent at the pumps goes towards the actual fuel, with the remaining 20% and 40% being duty and tax respectively. I think 69p is thus a little unlikely.

Where do supermarkets get their petrol from? Presumably its supplied by over-rich companies somewhere down the line.

Obviously where you choose to live depends on more than where you work. e.g. my better half works for Worcestershire Country Council and walks to work. Then there's good schools, knowing the area, etc, etc. That's why I think that it is impractical to expect people to move close to the office to save petrol.

Of course even with electric cars there comes the question of how that electricity is generated, etc, etc. Questions like that are what we need to deal with, rather than petrol costs. But petrol costs directly affect people's pockets, so I can see why they're bothered…

Long term companies are going to have to embrace telecommuting for the jobs that can be done that way. Wages will have to rise for those who continue to commute to cover their costs. Plus there are the costs of actual offices.

On the other hand, there are the costs of heating the home when you're working in it! Aargh!

Living away from the office isn't a luxury when you don't live in a big city. i.e. How many PHP companies are there in Worcester?! I agree that telecommuting is an option sometimes - it depends on your workforce and the way the company is set up though.

Rob…

I fully appreciate the argument about rural living. Although I now live in Worcester, I lived in rural Herefordshire for most of my life and had to drive myself to school when I was in sixth form. Plus there was one bus a week from our village. In places like that the car is the only option for getting about.

Taxes on things like petrol hit people in rural areas the hardest, as well as those on low incomes because the rich can still afford to fuel up there gas guzzlers.

However, I think that we have to be pragmatic and realise a few things. Long term, petrol will never go back to the good old days of being 69p a litre. Rising demand in the developing world and a limited supply of oil will see to that. It is also very difficult to get people to change their habits and give up luxuries that they are used to, like being able to living away from the office (I live 40 miles from mine and while I do have the option of public transport it takes ~1 hour 45 minutes against < 1 hour in the car. PT costs the same as it did in January though!). I don't think it is realistic to think that even a small percentage of the population will give this up, let alone the majority.

This means that we must find ways of replacing these fossil fuel burning journeys with other options. For people like you and me that might mean telecommuting (which I do 2 days a week) while for necessary journeys it means more efficient cars or even electric cars. Who knows?

I think the real answer is that we need to invent personal teleporters…

I agree that it's a little simplistic. Also, the level of duty on UK petrol is remarkably high.

Driving less is much harder for those of us in rural parts. e.g. my office is 12 miles from the nearest town and there are no buses. I live 30 miles from the office, so cycling is a little tricky too. Moving house isn't always simple as the children are in school and would need to be moved elsewhere. Not to mention that house prices are more expensive as you get nearer to where the office is.

I can imagine long term that there will be very few people who live and work outside of cities and their immediate environs.

Rob…

Then there's the bit about buying your petrol from Asda, Tesco, etc. Where exactly do you think the supermarkets get their petrol from? The same refineries as the stuff in the Esso and BP garages.

The sale of petrol on the forecourts is not really a very profitable business. The big oil companies make most of their money from the refining business.

I think a more sensible use of our time and effort would be to drive less and perhaps have an OFT investigation into the competitiveness of the petrol market. I think there is something in the fact that prices go up immediately when oil prices rise but are very slow to fall again when there is any fall. Of course, with all the vested interests that comes along with oil that will certainly never happen…